posted 05-14-2008 02:45 AM            

PLEASE DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY IF PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL IS OFFENSIVE TO YOU.
THIS IS REPRESENTED HERE TO YOU FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF EXPOSING JOHN GROGAN AS A PSEUDO-POLYGRAPH EXAMINER WHO HAS REPRESENTED HIMSELF IN THE CAPACITY OF AN EXAMINER IN A PORNOGRAPHIC VIDEO, A CLEAR DISGRACE TO OUR PROFESSION. THE SITE IS APPROPRIATELY TITLED "MONEY TALKS, WHAT'S YOUR PRICE ? "

YOU MAY WISH TO LIMIT YOUR VIEWING FROM THE
1 Minute 17 Second point to the 1 Minute 58 second mark.

IT IS NOT MY INTENT TO INSULT ANYONE WITH THIS LINK REFERENCE BELOW, BUT RATHER
TO FORWARD IT TO YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A MEMBER OF THE PROFESSIONAL POLYGRAPH
COMMUNITY WHO SHOULD BE EQUALLY OFFENDED BY THIS.

AGAIN, PLEASE " DO NOT "
OPEN THE LINK BELOW IF THIS MATERIAL OF OFFENSIVE TO YOUR PERSONAL SENSITIVITY.

>Subject: A New Low !!! Even for Grogan !!!
> Polygraph used in Pornography
>
WARNING !!!! Adult Content / Pornographic material
!!!
>
> http://www.moneytalks.com/view.htm?id=bangbiz&trailer=larin.wmv&lp=trailer--larin#movie

>
> A P.E. Test subject told me he saw a polygraph examiner in a porno production.
I found it to be John L. Grogan. You can not mistake his voice or appearance. I believe this is the lowest low yet for him. Please go to the 1:17 (One Minute & 17
second mark) to the 1:58 (One Minute & 58 second mark) WARNING it is XXX rated. It appears to have been made on 10/01/07. God knows how many more like it he has had time to be involved in since then.

I DEBATED WHETHER OR NOT TO POST THIS AS A CONSERVATIVE PERSON MYSELF, BUT I BELIEVE I HAVE A HISTORY OF EXPOSING THIS INDIVIDUAL'S ACTS WHICH HAVE BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROFESSION, AND IT WAS DONE IN THAT LIMITED CONTEXT. AGAIN, I DID NOT WISH TO OFFEND ANYONE, BUT RATHER TO INFORM YOU OF THIS ISSUE GROGAN / GROGANITES / PEOA WHICH WE MUST ALL TAKE ON.

[This message has been edited by thenolieguy4u (edited 05-14-2008).]

posted 05-14-2008 10:29 AM            

Could someone explain what Grogan is doing---is it crappy porn, old porn, new porn---is the music particularly bad? How about a critique?

posted 05-14-2008 11:12 AM            

Then they enter an episode of sexual conquest with each other then with two guys apparently in the next room. Then, what appears to be Grogan (based on the watch on the arm) paying them a wad of $100 bills.

This is right down there with the thumbs up, thumbs down guy, just nastier.

Can't wait for this to go public... Makes us look really professional and mainstream!

Sackett

posted 05-14-2008 12:54 PM         

Why does Grogan always get the really good jobs??

posted 05-14-2008 01:40 PM            

from what I could tell he just watched...
Kinda like the way he conducts polygraph; he just watches... LOL

posted 05-14-2008 09:00 PM            

no, but I wouldn't mind seeing her in one!

Sorry all, had to go there...

posted 05-14-2008 09:53 PM            

I paid the $4.95 for a three day pass on that site which was a first for me in life. I did so for the sole purpose of downloading that full video on DVD, as well as all the still photos as evidence. I will provide it free of charge to Lafayette who has had their product smeared, maligned, and misused by Grogan. I would further provide a copy to any Officer of your State organizations or NPA or AAPP for their own documentation about Grogan / PEOA; and the non-ethics of this guy. He has defiled yours and my profession, and there just is not a strong enough punishment I / We can dish out for that. Please let me know if you want a copy for actual such professional purposes.

I found it interesting that a guy like Grogan, who had been tossed out / fired from a P.I. School in L.A. for sexual harrassment of the female students-------- appeared so out of his element while two women were having sex right in front of him. I suppose he felt confident that he was the bigger whore in the room and that he could still play ( vs. Work) with his computer ----- and perhaps himself later. Further, in my "Research" I noted that when the younger of the two blonde's came in the living room and asked which of the men was the "smallest", that Grogan got out of the picture fast !!! He clearly stuck around to watch the shooting of it though, as his laptop and sensor box, and attachments could be visibly seen on the chair where he had been sitting before.

Also, it made me wonder if his own supposed pseudo-examiner, eighteen or nineteen year old, Katherine Grogan might somehow annonomousely find that link in her email to what Daddy does at work, and to show her how it is really done from his perspective. She must be soooooo proud of her Dad.

Did he really think this would not get out ? It begs the question as to WHAT ELSE has this Bozo done since the 10/01/07 production date of this ? Perhaps PEOA needs to do an I.A. on John Grogan for his unethical conduct. Oh Yah, I forgot !! PEOA is nothing more than an extention of John Grogan's pyramid scheme, as he could not get into ANY of the other organizations.

THE HUNT CONTINUES, AND THE HUNTED IS FAT, STUPID, AND AN EASY TARGET !! ALL THAT IS LEFT TO CONSIDER IS WHAT METHOD IT WILL TAKE FOR IT'S CEASING TO EXIST IN OUR PROFESSION. I AM NOT CONTENT TO BE A MERE SPECTATOR, BUT RATHER A HUNTER. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN I HEAR THIS PIG SQUEEL IN FRONT OF A JUDGE, OR HIS BEING THE VICTIM OF ONE OF HIS OWN RIPPED OFF CLIENTS. HE BELONGS SELLING USED CARS WHERE AT LEAST THE PUBLIC HAS THEIR GUARD UP IN SUCH PURCHASES FOR CON MEN LIKE HIM.

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posted 05-15-2008 11:09 AM            

to add a question/twist to it all.

Could one of the girls be Katherine Grogan? Nothing would surprise me with him...

posted 05-15-2008 11:42 AM            

I believe that Katherine Grogan may even be too young to have appeared in such a film. I would rather though, as she is some probable office holder in PEOA, be contacted to determine if this would be an ethics violation. Oh Yeh, I forgot, they don't have any ethics.

It seems that young Katherine can ONLY find fault with her Dad no matter in which direction she looks. 1). A failure as an example as a Father, 2.) as a mentor who gave her pseudo-credentials, and 3.) as a woman, she can find no example in him from which to model looking at men in her life. 4.) As a human being, she knows that Dad is from the lowest rung on the ladder who is despised in both the P.I. community, as well as the actual legitimate and professional polygraph community. I might pitty her, except she IS a legal adult and clear co-conspirator.

My concern in all of this is that the longer we fail to act, and just sit back and do nothing, then we can only be sure that nothing will change. I knew that Grogan was ripping off people, but I never thought he would in fact stoop this low for a dollar. Again, he was the biggest whore in that room.